Hey all, I was just browsing some of the KZ & RJ VIP features, then thought that we don't have almost any features for VIP! Chat tags are freely available in bhop, and we don't have any fancy models or anything like that. I would personally love for VIPs to have some proper features that encourages people to donate, especially to such a great community. A few ideas I had: Real VIP server - we currently have a private server however it lacks features such as pre-strafing in the start zone and even some maps. Possibly models - even if they are just simple ones, it'd be nice to have a bit of change. I can understand that these can get distracting however Joining full servers - may already be a feature, unsure Command to vote extend by 10 minutes - would be nice in the easy server, just a command to call a vote for extending the current map I'm sure other people have some more suggestions for the servers, and I'd love to see bhop continue to grow and expand it's community! Thanks for reading
Pre-strafing in the startzone? I really hope you mean a new style as most good bhoppers dispite this with all their heart. Being allowed to get more speed then 250 in the startzone makes for dumb times and a lot of people dislike that so I am not sure about the usefullness of that idea, however if you talk about a new style or I am missunderdstod please let me know! Thanks
@zeR0^v^ I'm fairly sure it's a feature on the other servers, you can gain a tiny bit of speed (up to about 280 IIRC) when in the start zone. I may just be imagining it however
On others as in our or other community servers? We did feature nopreauto and auto back in the days however the nopreauto found more success and was kept. I did not see anyone using Auto but maybe times have changed. 280 is not bad but makes a differense to times and all wrs would be useless
On our easy servers, I know a few people have talked about it, however I would have to speak to people like JImmy or ClouDD who may know a bit more about it. Every millisecond counts with speed
Why would you have to speak to them? I know just as much and see the frustation in losing your wr due to some pre-strafes. It would a huge differense on maps that are sub 40 secounds, wich there are plenty off. I can't say I like the idea however maybe someone else does and a poll could perhaps help.
we don't have prestrafing on the servers, it caps at 250 if your in the air or running around, the only reason why people jump inside the start zone is to shave off about 0.1 - 1 seconds of time :3 it just depends on how good your strafes are when exiting the start. i wouldn't recommend adding in prestrafing, but id ask if it would be OK to change the tagging feature to a VIP feature? as if everyone can do it it could create confusion to who is VIP, who is admin and who just hops. this was brought up yesterday as when someone was being disruptive they were asking "everyone got tags who is even admin?!". although i can see the downsides to this feature too :c i think it would be more beneficial to have it as a VIP command.
I totally agree with Arkh, tags are cool and make the server unique but could be locked down to paying players only as it is not a huge loss for the larger part of our community. Arkh also made a good point about the prestrafes and I agree with keeping that out of our server and let players use their pure skill over a small bonus to determin the accual best hoppers. The other things such as joining full servers and the extention thing I also agree with as they are both good features for a VIP to have. Final conclution for my part, +Locked tags for VIP - Good idea and makes for a point in buying VIP. +Extending maps - VIP players should have a little more influens as they did pay for their status. -Prestarfing - A thing we do not have neither do we need it, in my opinion it just ruins the whole point. +- Models - Kind of split on this, I like the idea and will not mind it however it not something that I would use personally!
Scrap the prestrafing features, I agree with zer0 however Some of the private server's bhop settings feel different, may just be me however.
Hmm I am not sure about the settings, as I am just a regular admin I can not really look into the settings and you would have to contact the headadmins and ask them! Go for bort,chuckels,steve or Kask! They should reply fairly quickly and be of usefull help! Thanks for keeping this discussion civilised! Hopefully we will get these features sorted soon
I'm glad somebody brought up prestrafing, there's something weird going on with it. In most maps I've played it's enabled for every style inside the startzone, including auto. The maxspeed ranges from ~270 to ~290 depending on which style you're using. Yet there's a minority (at least it feels like a minority) of maps where prestrafing is disabled inside startzones. What's up with the inconsistency? I can't test right now, but I feel like there's sometimes even a server wide difference. For example, a map on the easy server would have it enabled, yet on the VIP server it would be disabled. Then again, maybe I'm just imagining things
Sounds really odd but really worth looking into! Hopefully someone will and give us a answer with accual statistics, wishing for the best
in relation to the models, just some quick pros and cons i can think of from the top of my head: Pros - Would make new players and current players think about buying VIP to stand out from the other hoppers - Would be easier for people to help them as sometimes its hard to distinguish who is who when trying to show routes etc - would give more variety to the server instead of the standard CT and T player models - Would give people a reason to stay BHopping on our servers if we included a VIP point system that gives points for finishing maps (a bit like our Level system works) so that the more maps they finish the more skins they can get Cons - Can distract other non VIP BHoppers if they see a vibrantly coloured model zoom past them - Can annoy some people if they are stuck behind someone with a large model that clips into them, obscuring their view - Can put some Hoppers off of the servers if they feel the need to buy VIP just so they can stand out from the rest thats all i can think of atm, but just trying to give different sides of the point on including player models and whatnot, imho tho it would be much more fun to include them :3 maybe make a Poll on another thread if we decide to include VIP benefits?
Prestrafing is supposed to be a thing, don't remove it, rather make sure it's on all servers. Prestrafing and prespeed is not the same, and while prespeeding will lead to frustrating SR attempts, prestrafing is just a thing that's on most large servers due to most people coming from previous games, where it was a possibility. Again: [prestrafe=fine] [prespeed=bad] Don't get it confused, thank you. Oh, and while we're at it. If prestrafe was removed, we'd need another soft-reset of all times.
This is probably due to a bug in the custom code written to reduce the "icy" feel when bhopping, and to improve kz parts in maps, the same code that makes legit easy/hard that is shitting itself. Perhaps in those cases a reconnect to the server could fix it.
